To create havoc in the middle, the Sonics rely on three rough-edged role players: Danny Fortson, Reggie Evans and Nick Collison.
For his own sake, more than anyone else's, we hope this is the time Vin Baker isn't lying to us.
Vin Baker is gone and has been quickly forgotten by the Sonics, who can now focus on hoops.
The Sonics are trying to get kids Rashard Lewis and Desmond Mason more involved, but it's not easy.
Gary Payton and Vin Baker came close to moving on on deadline day.
Guys like Gary Payton and Vin Baker made keeping Paul Westphal as Seattle coach impossible.